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Article Lennie James on Morgan’s fate: “In this universe, anybody’s time can be called”

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  1. TeddyWestside

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    The soothing hum of the television is providing an important service during these strange and scary times. New episodes of Homeland and Westworld, not to mention bizarre new smash-hits like Tiger King, are offering a comforting form of distraction and escape during lockdown.

    This is also the case for the brilliantly gripping Lennie James-created drama Save Me, the second season of which, Save Me Too, arrived earlier this month. James writes and stars in the gritty London-set crime drama in which he plays Nelly Rowe, a father who is desperately searching for his missing daughter Jody.


    “I’m glad if anyone’s using Save Me Too as a distraction [from coronavirus], and if anybody’s using it as a way to get through all of this madness then I’m glad we’ve provided it,” James tells NME from Austin, Texas, where he’d been filming the latest season of Fear The Walking Dead (in which he stars as badass survivor Morgan Jones) before production was halted.

    As well as Save Me Too, James also gave us some insight into the forthcoming new season of FTWD, while also reflecting on his past work in The Walking Dead and Snatch — the Guy Ritchie crime caper celebrating its 20th anniversary this year.

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    Lennie James as Nelson “Nelly” Rowe in ‘Save Me Too’. Credit: Sky
    How proud are you of Save Me Too?
    “I’d be lying if I didn’t say I was really chuffed. There was a certain amount of pressure on us second time around because of how well-received the first season was, but we managed to keep the influences of that at bay. [Executive producers] Simon Heath and Jess Sykes kept me focused on the story I always intended to tell regardless of the part of the Save Me story that was already out there.”

    Are you planning a third season?
    “I’m being asked that question a lot at the moment, and I’ll give you the honest answer: I do have some ideas for a third [season]. I haven’t had the big crux idea: I don’t know how anybody else does it, but for me there’s a moment where you can have the outline or bones of an idea, but there’s one part of the idea that just clicks and makes everything join together. I haven’t had that idea yet. If I do, then there will be a third season. If I don’t, then there won’t be.”

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    James as Morgan Jones in ‘The Walking Dead’. He reprised the role in spin-off ‘Fear The Walking Dead’. Credit: AMC
    The Walking Dead franchise has been halted by lockdown – can you give us an update on spin-off Fear The Walking Dead?

    “They’ve taken a really bold and brave swing at the way we’re telling the story this season. There was a bit more of a sense of the story being told as an anthology, and the episodes being more self-contained. It seemed to me to be very brave, and seemed to be working fantastically. The scripts and storytelling this year is at another level, and it was very exciting to see what they were doing. Hopefully we get to have a chance to finish as much of the season as they were hoping for, because I think the stories that they’re trying to tell and the way they’re trying to tell them is really exciting. I’d love to see the results of that.”

    Morgan was left in a sticky situation after being shot and left for dead in the Fear season five finale. What’s going to happen to him?
    “I couldn’t possibly comment! He is a survivor, but in this universe, as it’s been proven over and over again on both The Walking Dead and Fear…, anybody’s time can be called. There have been a number of characters that people have said ‘oh, that character can’t die, they’ll be there forever’ and then they’ve gone. Rick and Carl are good examples of that. Nothing’s guaranteed, but maybe Morgan’s time is up — maybe it isn’t. Hopefully we’ll get to see the new season of Fear… and see how that plays out.”



    It’s been two years since you crossed over from The Walking Dead to Fear. Do you miss it?
    “There are certain times of the year when I miss The Walking Dead, because I got into the [production] routine of the year: basically, everyone heads back to Atlanta or Georgia come April and everybody heads home come November, just before Thanksgiving. That was my pattern for a good number of years, so around those times of year when I know that everybody’s heading to Atlanta, I have a pang where I kinda miss everybody and remember how much fun it was being in everybody’s company. But I’m in contact with quite a few of the people I was closest to while I was filming there.”

    Have you built up similar relationships with the cast of Fear…?
    “I’m lucky because there’s an amazing cast and crew that I’ve been embarking on a whole new routine with on Fear: they actually operate on the opposite half of the year, so we start in November and finish in June. So yeah, I do miss [The Walking Dead]. I particularly miss it when I hear from my mates who are still on the show, and I just remember the good times we had. I also really miss Atlanta. I fell in love with that city, and I made friends there who had nothing to do with the show. Might I ever be invited back to The Walking Dead? Maybe: the ghost of Morgan! [laughs].”

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    (L-R) Robbie Gee, Ade, Lennie James in Guy Ritchie’s ‘Snatch’. Credit: Alamy
    One of your first big roles was in Snatch, which celebrates its 20th anniversary this year…
    “I was aware of the anniversary, yeah! Partly because both Jason Flemyng and Stevie G [Stephen Graham] are in Save Me, and we speak regularly on WhatsApp. It’s one of those weird ones: I was stopped by someone in the street before the lockdown who was talking about Snatch, and I said: ‘That’s 20 years ago!?’ And this was a guy who was maybe two years old when the film came out, but had watched it in the last few years as if it was a new film. And that happens over and over again, and I suppose it’s a real testimony to Snatch’s success. Every generation watches it as if it was made for them, and it’s stood the test of time. It’s one of those projects where I made friends for life, such as Stevie G, Jason and Robbie Gee. So fond memories, it was a good gig for me as well.”
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    Ugh, .my apologies! Here ya go: https://www.nme.com/tv-interviews/lennie-james-fear-the-walking-dead-morgan-jones-2650965
     
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  2. Flynn

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    Yeah, I saw this--of course Lennie says he can't say what happens to Morgan and that yes anyone can die in TWD universe...but what struck me was the number of times Lennie uses the word "WE" when talking about the making of season 6. Implication that he's fully a part of season 6--which would not be surprising at all.
     
  3. Mtricky

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    Morgan lives...not sure how I feel about that:whistle:
     
  4. TeddyWestside

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    He can't say anything about it yet the article says..

     
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    :LOL:--I didn't see the Austin thing...good pick-up.
     
  6. BloodyScreaminBanshee

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    Morgan. Can't. Die.

    Well, at least until he sees Rick again. He HAS to see Rick again.
     
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    If Morgan dies, whats left?

    Think Dwight & Sherry and Ward & June can carry the show?
     
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    A show, that Alicia can steal back. :X3:
     
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    if it were only so... the clark family ship has sailed though :sorry:
     
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    I thought Lennie's use of the word "brave" was interesting when he described how they were doing the stand alone episodes.
     
  12. matt93

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    That doesn’t really make much sense to me at all. What’s ‘brave’ about it? AMC forced Season 6 to be made up entirely of bottle episodes to save on the (practically non-existent at this point) budget. They’re literally only making Seasons 6 because they need seven total seasons to get syndication rights; so they have no reason to give the Fear crew a single dime. Season 7 will be 100% bottle episodes too except with an impossibly lower budget.
     
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    Sometimes people use certain words when they can't use other words. I might be going out on a limb here but I think him saying "brave" is his very nice way of saying, they are doing something crazy that hasn't been tried before and taking huge risks in the process.
     
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    I am not certain that I will be watching Season 6. I know this was more about his show Save Me Too, but LJ didn’t say anything to excite me about FTWD. I barely watched some of season 5 though, so I might not be a good indicator of interest for season 6.

    I think it is interesting that LJ didn’t really answer the question about if he has made friends on FTWD - he basically talked about TWD again. I think the fact that he mentions anyone can die in this universe is a standard throw away line for the actors, but taken with the bravery comment means someone significant dies on FTWD and it is clearly not him. But in general, I think the line on its own is a little disingenuous in a way when anyone says it. Rick didn’t really “die” and it was driven by AL wanting off the show, not bravery in storytelling and risk taking. DG wanted to leave the show and her character again doesn’t die. Daryl, Carol, Judith, Alicia, and maybe even Morgan and Negan seem a little untouchable, unless the actor wants to go. I would add Carol to that category, but MMB contract (like Daryl) is up to interpretation since she is locked into the universe, but could leave TWD. I wouldn’t be surprised if on FTWD however they kill off someone like John who is a fan favorite, but the character hasn’t quite made it to untouchable territory like Daryl on TWD (most popular and connects back to original story) or Alicia on FTWD (popular and connects back to original story). Carl is probably the only character I have been truly surprised to see killed off.

    I do wish LJ success on his show. TPTB have made many missteps, but I think casting to a large degree has been great. They have found talented actors, many of whom are talented in front and behind the camera.
     
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    It just makes me laugh and cringe simultaneously that they’re trying so hard to give this a positive spin in any and every way possible. It’s not some creative choice they made, it’s something AMC forced as an ultimate result of the tanking ratings, complete alienation of once-devoted fans/critics and no more social media buzz. A sizable amount of people know full well that AMC forced it too, consumers aren’t anywhere near as blind as these execs keep hoping. It’s not in any way breaking new ground either , given about 70% of the Chambliss/Goldberg era up to this point has been bottle episodes (much to everyone’s chagrin). The only real difference now is that from here to the end of the show characters will be split up 100% of the time.

    I mean obviously this is just LJ trying to support his own show, I wouldn’t have expected anything less, but still this whole thing just irks me to no end ugggh lol
    --- Double Post Merged, May 1, 2020, Original Post Date: May 1, 2020 ---
    I’m still befuddled as to why they don’t just outright say that Season 6 will be entirely bottle episodes. It feels like they’re trying to pull the wool over peoples eyes by dressing it up in fancy talk thinking it'll give audiences a different picture, even despite the glaringly obvious fact that absolutely NO ONE is falling for it. Again, they seem to be desperately hoping consumers are more blind/sheepish than they actually are.
     
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    I did too Robb. Sounds like they are moving away from the status quo of having a central villian and will be going to story thatares that maybe encapsulate an episode or two... Kind of like Smallville with the monster of the week deal.... There might be an interwoven season long plot, but sounds like that is going to the wayside on fear.

    I just hope that with the episodic stories they can find a persistence of threat, so the show doesn't become bogged down in character studies...

    Clear was a great TWD ep (the one with Morgan and Eastman, hope I remembered the right ep name) but I don't want to watch a season full of episodes like that...
     
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